Sunday, March 30, 2008

Re: Israel defend Islam against EU's Franco Frattini Accusat

Duration: 10:59 minutes
Upload Time: 2008-02-05 09:42:45

My reply to the video, making a few points (and probably going off topic at the same time).

Comments

rulllar  2008-02-26 06:14:59

as for the rabbis - there was support for zionism that was withdrawan when they realized the intention was a secular state. it was a religious/secular conflict as much as from arguing against Israel's need to exist. In any case, this generations rabbis believe in Israel's right to exist with only a few exceptions, whether they are zionist or not. You mentioned Jonathan Sacks and said how can one argue with someone so prominent? he is a VERY strong support of Israel's existence.
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rulllar  2008-02-26 06:09:31

you'll find those who vote most for the far-right parties of israel are Mizrahim. Ashkenazim are often considered to be of the parties of meretz, avoda. Strange that those who lived in arab lands are in parties that least trust the arab intentions. Also, there are not a small number of documentated cases of Jews expressing suffering under Islam, including in the early empires (the so-called golden age).
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kaiwaig  2008-02-12 21:02:48

They use Muslim because it adds a touch of 'legitimacy' - take Vietnam for instance; you really think people gave a toss about communism? the whole Vietcong mantra was Nationalism at every moment, and down played the Communist message to something as meaningless as 'equality'. I can assure you, the Muslim Brotherhood is as nationalistic as Hezbola, except their view is a pan-Arab unified super state with one single religion. Ba'thism had the same idea except it was predominately secular.
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ahhhrt  2008-02-12 20:50:03

Very well articulated.
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BetamaxDisc  2008-02-11 03:15:27

Now Zionists are the problem. Lets set a reccord that may suprise scholars and academics. Consider the word "prerogative" and the line "self determination" Establishments arent built on love and study. Some cultures prefer to use militancy insted of high level political manouvering. End of the day you can reason with the man wearing a suit, the man with an AK cannot be reasoned with words.
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